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Interview with the Lock Picking Lawyer

Alongside practicing law, the Lock Picking Lawyer also runs one of the most popular, most viewed, and most respected lock picking YouTube Channels there is.

With more than a million subscribers, he is a force that inspires both newcomers and seasoned pickers alike.

Learn more about his journey into lock picking and his opinions regarding the craft with our exclusive interview with none other but the Lock Picking Lawyer.

If you are brand new to lock picking and are wondering how to get started, consider checking out my ultimate beginner's lock picking guide.

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Q: Let’s start this interview off by telling us a little bit about yourself. What do you do for a living, and how are you involved with the locksport community?

"It’s funny how often people ask, “are you really a lawyer?”  The answer is "yes.”  At the time of this interview, I am a 37-year-old practicing attorney from the Washington, D.C. area.  The focus of my law practice has nothing to do with locks or security.

How am I involved in the locksport community?  My main contact with the community is through the Lock Picking Lawyer YouTube channel.  YouTube is an inherently social platform, so that has led to me developing relationships with many people all over the world who are involved in the community in different ways. 

Hobby pickers, locksmiths, lock pick makers, and lock makers are among the people I speak with almost every day."

Q: What got you into lock picking?

"I’ve been fascinated with locks since I was a little kid.  I even tried lock picking when I was in middle school.  But I was flying blind.  My only resource was Ted the Tool’s MIT Guide to Lock Picking (which was relatively new back then) and my homemade picks were absolutely terrible. 

It’s probably for the best that I was pretty terrible back then because there’s no doubt that I would have gotten into trouble.  After several months of consistent failure, I abandoned my efforts.

Many years later, I happened across BosnianBill’s YouTube channel, and my fascination with lock picking was reignited.  After a couple of weeks of watching his videos (and those of many other lock picking YouTubers) during every spare moment, I decided to try picking again. 

I ordered some lock picking tools and dove in headfirst.  This time around was different.  It turned out that I had a real knack for it.  About four months later, I started my YouTube channel."

Q: Who were some of the people in the locksport community that you really looked up to or aspired to be as good as when you first started?

"That’s easy to answer:  BosnianBill.  The list is short only because I didn’t really know of anyone when I got started.  There is a long list of talented and inspirational pickers in the community, but I didn’t know who they were until much later. 

In retrospect, that may have been a good thing.  My separation from the larger community allowed me to develop my own less conventional style of picking that might never have come to pass had I more exposure to the locksport community."

Q: Some of our readers are curious as to what tools you have in your “go-to” pick set. Can you tell us in detail about what you carry in your kit? 

"My fingers are getting tired just thinking about typing the entire set out.  My “go-to” set is actually quite large – roughly 90 tools right now.  Before I list them, here’s a word of explanation. 

Beyond my “go-to” set, I have more picks than I care to admit – largely because I have tried darn near everything, and selected what works best for me. 

The picks that made the cut are in a Sparrows “Sherman” case that is absolutely packed… and while there are many picks in the case, know that if it’s in my case, I think it’s useful. 

There’s no fluff.  I’m constantly taking less used tools out and replacing them with something new that I found useful, but as of writing this, here’s what’s in the case:

TENSION:
.050” Peterson Prybar
.050” Peterson Toothless Prybar
.040” Peterson Prybar
.040” Peterson Toothless Prybar
.032” Sparrows Prybar
.025” Sparrows Prybar
Peterson “Flat Five” set
Sparrows Wiper Insert Z Bars (2 each of all 3 sizes)
USALockPicks Tubular Lock Tension Tool
Peterson SFIC “Control Line” Tensioner Set (3 tools)
6 Assorted Chinese Dimple Lock Z Bars

HOOKS:
Peterson #1 Hook in .025”
Peterson #1 Hook in .018”
Peterson #1 Hook in .015”
Peterson #4 Hook in .025”
Peterson #7 Hook in .018”
Peterson #7 Hook in .015”
Sparrows SSDev 3 Hook Set (w/ handles)
Sparrows Short Hook in .015” (w/ handle)
Sparrows Short Hook in .025” (w/ handle)
Sparrows Deep Hook in .015” (w/ handle)
SouthOrd Max Short Hook in .023”
SouthOrd Max Medium Hook in .023”
SouthOrd Max Deep Hook in .023”
SouthOrd Slimline Short Hook
SouthOrd Slimline Medium Hook
SouthOrd Slimline Deep Hook
Peterson Gem in .018”

RAKES:
Sparrows Triple Peak (w/ handle)
Sparrows Worm (w/ handle)
Mad Bob’s Prince
Mad Bob’s Princess
Peterson Shallow Bogie in .018”
Peterson Deep Bogie in .018”
Sparrows King
Sparrows Queen
Sparrows Rook
Sparrows Knight

DIMPLE:
SpooXe Small Flat Flag
SpooXe Small Offset Right Flag
SpooXe Small Offset Left Flag
SpooXe Small Curved Right Flag
SpooXe Small Curved Left Flag

OTHER PICKS:
The Entire Sparrows .020” Lineup – 9 Picks (currently under evaluation)
SouthOrd Slimline Small Half Diamond
Peterson Half Diamond in .025”
Peterson Half Diamond in .015”
Peterson Warded Pick Set
Sparrows Wafer Lock Jiggler Set
2 Odd Picks that Defy Description

BYPASS/MISC:
Peterson Plug Spinner/Flipper
Sparrows Quick Jim
Peterson Saw Tooth Broken Key Extractor
Peterson Knife
Peterson Mini Knife
Screw type Broken Key Extractor
Peterson Padlock Bypass Tool"

Q: In your videos, you seem to be able to pick open dimple locks with ease. What is your favorite pick set to use on dimple locks? What are some good beginner dimple locks someone can start with?

"This is a question that requires some background to answer. 

When I just started picking, I was terrified of dimple locks and avoided them.  I had built them up in my mind as these super-high security locks that mere mortals should avoid. 

Then I received two dimple euro cylinders in a trade:  an Abus D6 and an Abus D10 (featured in my videos Abus D6 Euro Cylinder Picked and Gutted and Abus D10 SKG** Euro Cylinder Picked and Gutted). 

For those of you who are familiar with these locks, you know that they have a pretty tight keyway

At that time, the only dimple tools I had were part of a Goso pick set.  But none of those picks would even turn in the keyway.  So I got to modifying one of the picks to fit in the tight Abus keyway… contouring the flag, rounding the shaft, rounding the corners, polishing everything, etc. 

Once I was done with my modifications, I was pleasantly surprised – actually stunned – at how quickly I opened those two Abus’s. 

That gave me the confidence to try other dimple locks.  But the only other dimple locks I had were a Mul-T-Lock Interactive and a Mul-T-Lock Jr.  So I tried them, and was again, pleasantly surprised that they were not as bad as I had imagined in my head. 

After that, my love for picking dimple locks was firmly set.

In retrospect, I think that starting on that tight Abus keyway was a true stroke of luck.  Had I started with “easier” dimple keyways, I may not have modified my picks right away. 

It wasn’t until several months later when I broke my first dimple pick that I appreciated exactly how important the modifications that I made were.  I tried using an unmodified pick and I was instantly unable to pick even the easiest of dimple locks. 

That led me to the conclusion that there are serious problems with darn near every dimple pick on the market.  Chief among them are square (or flat) pick shafts. 

It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that a square shaft is not going to turn smoothly in a square hole (keyway).  Yet for some reason (probably cost), every pick maker produces dimple picks with square (or flat) shafts. 

This is my long way of saying that I don’t think there are currently any really good sets of dimple picks on the market.  The picks I am currently using are from a German company called SpooXe.  They appear to be Chinese Goso picks that have been hand finished to correct many of the problems shared by most other picks. 

If I had to recommend one set, that would be it. 

That said, I know that there are new products coming to the market soon, so keep your eyes peeled!  In addition to the picks, tensioning dimple locks is an important part of the equation. 

For my most recent thoughts on the best dimple tension tools and techniques, see my recent videos Special Considerations in Tensioning Dimple Locks and Banggood 14 Piece Tension Tool Set Review.

As for starter dimple locks, that’s hard to say.  I’d go with whatever is most common wherever you are.  I’d stick with 6 pin locks with keyways that are not too complex.  Yale, Yardeni, Abus, Cisa, Master, Iseo, and many other companies have locks that fall into this category."

Q: What are some locks you are working on at the moment? Are there any locks that you just absolutely cannot open?

"Well, recently I have been spending a great deal of time on Mul-T-Lock’s MT5+ system.  If you watch my channel, you will see those efforts are now bearing fruit, so it’s probably time to move on to something else. 

Evva GPI Keyway is one nasty keyway

The locks that I will likely concentrate on are Primus and Medeco, if only because they are among the most common high-security locks in the US market. 

I also regularly spend time with BiLocks, ASSA Twins, and some of the high pin count Kaba’s (Expert, Quattro, 20, etc.), but they are lower down on my priority list… I mostly work on them for a change in pace.

I also have an ongoing fascination with the Ingersoll 10 lever lock…  I find them challenging to pick and mechanically intriguing.

As for what I can’t open (yet) – the list is very, very long so I can’t even begin to list them all.  I will note, however, that I’ve never even tried any of the supposed “unpickable” locks… the  Abloy Protec, the EVVA MCS, etc. 

I have no reason to think that I would have any more luck than others who have attempted them.  Maybe someday I’ll try to climb those mountains, but they are not even on my radar right now.  I also have not spent any time working on the newer electro-mechanical systems."

Q: In your opinion, how has the Locksport community changed over the years? Where would you like to see it go from here?

"Hobby picking has found its way into the mainstream over the last 20 years. 

As I noted above, there was very little in the way of resources available to aspiring hobby pickers when I made my first attempts at picking.  Today, lock picking resources are abundant and newcomers to the hobby are in much better shape than their counterparts from 20 years ago. 

I have tried to add to that knowledge base where I’ve seen gaps in the resources available.  My hope is that those who come after me will have an even smoother learning curve. 

The explosion in popularity of hobby picking has also fueled lots of innovation in locksport tools, and greatly increased the availability of those tools to the public.

As for the future, I’d love to see the continued growth in the ranks of hobby pickers.  But what gets me really excited are the unique ideas that new blood will bring to the community. 

Never in history have so many people openly practiced picking and shared their ideas with such a wide and public audience.  Hopefully, this critical mass of enthusiasts will result in more “outside the box” thinking and more people attacking the higher security locks. 

It will be exciting to see how we, as a community, continue to redefine the term “unpickable.”

Q: Finally, what is your favorite beer to drink while picking locks?

"I haven’t really been much of a beer drinker since law school. 

That said, I definitely drink while picking. 

If you’ve seen one of my videos, chances are that right off camera is a glass of scotch or Irish whiskey.  My favorites right now are Lagavulin 16 for Scotch whiskey and Bushmills 21 for Irish whiskey… but I’m not that picky. 

My “favorite” is often influenced by what’s on sale."

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28 comments on “Interview with the Lock Picking Lawyer”

  1. You have to try the Ardbeg Supernova. It's not cheap, but as a lawyer you should be able to afford it.

  2. I just found your YouTube channel, and I ordered a cheap set of picks with practise lock. I am enjoying your vixeos.

  3. my son has taken over a bank in baldock england for his rc shop and it has a vault which is locked and the key is lost could you open this vault

  4. I don't even remember how I first found the Lock Picking Lawyer's youtube channel, but I was hooked from the first video. His videos have excellent content efficiently presented, with great camera work, lighting and audio quality. And he just comes across as a good guy, which makes a huge difference.

  5. I found LPL's YouTube Channel while searching for meditation and relaxation videos. His channel came up with other ASMR channels. Reading comments on LPL's videos, it seemed as if others found his channel the same way. It appears from LPL's earliest videos that his style was not originally developed for this reason.

    My questions for LPL are regarding the ASMR aspect. Does LPL have any idea the percentage of his followers that are there for ASMR and ASMR-esque reasons? Has he done anything to highlight this since then? Does he use special sound equipment (and if so, what?), and any other details along these lines LPL is willing to share....

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  6. On the other side . . . .
    How can the average user select a "good" lock. It looks like no lock is totally unpickable, but can we buy a lock that is more difficult to pick, so t he thief will go elsewhere?

  7. I saw that as well but it doesn't make that much sense looking at his answer about dimple locks/picks. The Sparrows set (which he helped design and has used) was available in 2018 the Multipick set (which he also has used) was available in 2019.

  8. Here is the UK we see this advertised
    "MASTER LOCK Key Safe Wall Mounted Police Approved [Certified] [Extra large] [Wall mounted] - 5426EURD - Professional Key Lock Box"

    It is a pushbutton key safe. The 'Police' Approved' aspect sounds good but Master locks in general are not.

    Have you ever picked one of these?

  9. Great interview. LPL is one of my favorite YT channels. Interesting guy, great that this channel is a hobby and he's still a lawyer which gobbles up so much time (probably more so in DC).

  10. Teresa Hinton asked about "picking" her son's push button bank vault door. There is a somewhat inexpensive way to defeat these. Look at the push button assembly and get the brand name and model number. You may need to bump the lock up about 1/2" to get it away from the door so you can see the back side. Often these have two batteries located in the back of the unit. Once you have identified the push button unit go onto the internet and order one. Put batteries in it and follow the directions for setting a code. I suggest 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. They cut the wire that runs into the safe door leaving enough that you can strip and splice onto the wires. Punch in your code and the door should now be unlocked. Turn the wheel to retract the locking bolts.

  11. Thank you for the insightful interview. However, why would you not ask the - maybe just in my opinion - most obvious question, which is why - unlike white hat hackers - he chooses to share his expertise in all detail with everyone, ie. incl. burglars and gangsters worldwide instead of monetizing on selling his methods to the manufacturers do that they can improve their locks, especially since he is a law professional.
    I’m very much on the fence on this, my wife is disgusted by those videos.

  12. OK, it's been a week and nobody else has replied so I will give it a go. I don't pretend to speak for LPL but I believe I share in the feeling of many in any one of the numerous online communities that are about freely sharing information. Some are motivated by the believe that this information, freely available, can ignite passion in newcomers for the hobby and that an increasing base of enthusiasts might trigger innovation in tools and techniques that can only improve the technology in general, by the way, this is also the general idea behind the patenting of intellectual property and publishing of scientific research.

    As for the concern that burglars and gangsters worldwide might gain an advantage from learning these lock picking skills, I hope I can assuage your fear with the certain knowledge that many of these unsavory characters are well acquainted with tools and techniques long available in the prior art of housebreaking such as hammers, pry bars, and even rocks. I know of nobody and think you would be hard pressed to find one among those you know whose property was violated by means of picking the lock. I am aware of many cases in which the lock was simply bypassed by means of shattering a window pane or destroying a door frame.

    I hope this helps you find a more comfortable perch than that fence you have been sitting on.

  13. Re Sven,

    Just to put the risk you perceive into context.

    A relative of mine was burgled. They used a prybar to force the door and jam apart - never touched the lock.

    Another relative was failing to answer the door and was assumed to have fallen ill. The Emergency services were called in order to gain entry. The lock was a simple Euro which could have been raked or 'Zipped' in seconds, but the Police chose to use the 'Persuader' and smashed in the door, destroying the frame in the process. The relative was fine, simply deaf and in a back room, having not heard the door knocks.

    Teaching crooks how to pick a lock does not reduce our security, they (and the Police) take the easiest way in.

  14. Fantastic interview... love his work, sense of humour and most importantly his taste in Single Malt! Has rekindled my interest in lock picking and the weaknesses in security systems in general.

  15. The earliest instance of this article in the Wayback Machine at the Internet Archive is 2017-06-06, but the copyright date at the bottom of the archived page is © 2015-2016 ART OF LOCK PICKING. While not an exact date of when the interview took place, it provides a rough estimate

  16. I think that's a republication date. The article can be found in the Wayback Machine at the Internet Archive on 2017-06-06, with a copyright notice of ©2015-2016 ART OF LOCK PICKING, so it is most likely earlier than 2017.

  17. What a humble and pleasant person. I have been watching him for years out of fascination- and love how he teaches. Its good to hear more about who he is, and *how* he is. Thank you!

  18. Quote from the Interview:
    "For my most recent thoughts on the best dimple tension tools and techniques, see my recent videos Special Considerations in Tensioning Dimple Locks and Banggood 14 Piece Tension Tool Set Review."
    These videos are from November 2016.

  19. I have an old Yale lock that was my Great Grandfather's. I have a key, not sure if it is the right key. I can't get it open. Any suggestions of who I can send it to get it open? I'll pay the shipping both ways and send $100.00 to the Wounded Warriors in their name if some one can open this lock.

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